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The Owner of the Car Didn’t Kill Him…

Via Weer’d comes the following (Link Warning as it goes to a site run by Joan and Jason Kilgore.  All other links except the quote are safe)*:

The boy was armed with a loaded gun and his face was covered with a t-shirt. He approached a car in the parking lot of an apartment complex and ordered the driver to get out. In response, the driver pulled out a gun and shot the teen at least one time. The teen ran 30 feet, collapsed and died. The teen’s gun was cocked and ready to fire.

This was posted on their “Kid Shootings” blog.  A blog they use to dance in the blood of children who die because someone shot them.  Here’s a question though, who really killed that kid?  I’m of the strong opinion he killed himself.  Now someone else actually ran the instrument that caused his death, but it was the child’s decisions that resulted in his death.

Please note, we often hear about “suicide by cop” so how is this really different?  Yeah the person may not be intending to die, but that is the risk that is carried by their actions.

That child was ready to kill the owner of that car.  The owner did what he had to in order to survive.  The kid had a choice though.  He could have stayed home and played video games.  He could have attempted to steal a different car.  I already talked about this previously.

This post by our dear friends in the criminal occupational hazard reduction organization though shows us exactly what their attitudes are.  They do not support the law abiding.  They do not support and defend the innocent.  They do not support and defend those who are forced to defend their life or declare it forfeit and arrive at the gates of heaven.

This post is further evidence of the statements I wrote in my Open Letter To Joan Peterson, who has never responded by the way.  The facts are plain and clear though and we are obtaining more data points to support our conclusions.  Our opponents hate and despise the law abiding and those who are honest within our society.  They rise up and defend robbers, rapists, murders, and anyone who would do harm to another person. 

Joan defended the assailant in the Kroger’s incident.  Here Baldr Odinson (Jason Kilgore) defends a teenager who took a loaded firearm and threatened someone with it.  The teenager was a mere 4 or 6lbs from taking someone’s life.  They had done everything else necessary to do the deed other than apply another 4 or 6 lbs. to the trigger.  How does one say their intent is anything but possibly fatal to your well being at that point?

As was said by Sean earlier today as well as made a quote of the day:

“I didn’t kill him, he killed himself. I just carried the bullet for a while.”

It was the choices of that teenager that resulted in his death.  Not the gun, not the car he was trying to steal, not the victim who was being robbed.

It is telling since it is well known that the rate of accidents involving firearms has been steadily decreasing.  Obviously it’s low enough that they have to resort to posting children who enter a life of crime and discover that life has consequences.

*As a side note I actually left a comment on their blog.  I am posting it here as well as linking to this post.  Just because they can control the signal on their site doesn’t mean they can block it from the internet.


I guess car jacking and assault with a deadly weapon isn’t a crime if you’re under 18 in your book.

Do law abiding citizens need to ask for id now when being assaulted and threatened with a deadly weapon before defending themselves?

It’s good to see that you’re abusing the victim in this case and dancing in the blood of the aggressor to push your political agenda.  We can’t have honest law abiding folks fight back against someone who had a loaded and cocked firearm pointed at them and threatening them. 

Tell me, would a cop ask for ID in that instance prior to shooting them?

That was a reasonable use of force no matter how you cut it.  The solution to this problem is simple.  Educate your children that there are consequences to your actions.  Sometimes those consequences are dire and if you point a loaded firearm at someone attempting to rob them, they’re liable to take you seriously.  So seriously infact that they will defend themselves which may result in your recidivism rate being effectively reduced to zero.

I look at this as a parenting failure and thank god the victim had a firearm and was able to protect his life.  Unlike you, I don’t defend people who abuse the good in society.  I care about the good and if someone would rather be bad, that’s their choice and there’s consequences to your choices good or bad.

By the way, I’ve posted this on my blog too so censoring it won’t help.

Quote of the Day – Oleg Volk(12/14/2012)

Mass murderers use different methods (arson, explosions, knife attacks, shootings), but two coincidence just jump out at me. The first is that almost all mass murderers are men. The other is that they seek out locations where good people are disarmed by law.

(emphasis mine.)
Oleg VolkCoincidences in most massacres
December 14th, 2012


[A post from Sebastian also rang and a worthy QotD:

 As gun owners, if we could just experience the grief and sorrow along with the rest of the country, instead of having it intruded upon by that impending feeling of doom about what the media, the politicians, and the people in society who don’t much care for civilian gun ownership are going to do to our lives, liberty and often times livelihood? If we could go through something like this without worrying how much we’re going to be the scapegoats?

Right now my heart weeps, sad that so many children will not get to live a full and happy life because of the actions of a mad man.  There can be no question as to why he chose that target.  He wanted his victims as defenseless as possible.  There is no better way to achieve that goal than to go after children.

While I would rather mourn, console, and otherwise comfort the families who’s lives have been turned upside down by the actions of an individual I have no choice but to look forward and prepare for the fight on the horizon.  Many will try to rush forward in the wake of this tragedy, forgetting rules that should be followed in the wake of something horrifying and disturbing as such as this incident.

Recently Obama gave a statement about the tragedy and stated the following:

“As a country, we have been through this too many times,” Obama said. “We’re going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this regardless of the politics.”

Except there is no real 100% way to make sure that something like this does not happen again.  The only thing you can do is make sure the tools and abilities for those around who can most quickly and easily respond.  If you don’t believe me, look no further than this incident in China where a man committed the same atrocities with a knife.

The dreaded attacks on school children returned to haunt China on Thursday after 22 of them were injured besides an 85-year-old woman after a “mentally deranged” man, armed with a knife, went on a slashing spree at a primary school.

Other similar incidents have happened before, without a firearm.

There is evil in this world and the atrocities today illustrate and prove that.  There are animals who are such due to a lack of conscience, a lack of morality and not even the law will stop them.  Many would rather not have to see or deal with the evil that lies within these animals.  Even more than that, they think that inanimate objects are some how responsible for the evil.  They want to be able to look at a physical object and blame it for what as happened.  They want to destroy the physical object and blame it for their grief.

I can understand that feeling, it’s a very hard thing to be angry at something that is invisible and outside of your control.  No one likes the idea of someone else being in control of their fate, especially with regards to life and death.  They want to do anything they can to give them the illusion that somehow they do have control and they have made a difference, despite all evidence to the contrary.

Despite that feeling it doesn’t change where the responsibilities lie.  It doesn’t change the fact that a person an animal would do something like this.  The problem and responsibility lie within the head of the thing who felt this was the way to achieve his 15 minutes of fame.

I will not use this cowards name, I will not support his new-found glory supplied by the mainstream media.  I will not allow his fame to give the idea to someone else seeking their 15 minutes of fame.

How do you constrain or punish an animal  who at the end of their crime merely wants to take their own life?  They are escaping any punishment you might give them.  The only punishment that remains is one provided through faith.  At times such as this though, people with faith find it tried, often crushed.

Ultimately though, the best solution to this problem is to arm good men and women, I bow humbly to Edmund Burke on this one.

All that’s necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing.

The disarmament of the good merely ensures their inability to act resulting in a triumph of evil.

All I really want to do right now is give comfort to those who need it.  Alas, I’m not even allowed that moment of grief in solitude without needing to deal with politics.  As Sebastian said at the end of his post though:

we may not be interested much in politics, but politics is very interested in us.

I wish I could effectively write something to help people grieve, but that is beyond my skill.  While there are times I am good at conveying emotion through the written word, this isn’t one of those times.  So I just leave you with this.

If you have kids, hug them and kiss them.  Remember that somewhere there is a Christmas tree with presents under it that will not be opened.  There will be an empty seat at the Christmas table without the glowing smile of a child at Christmas.  Embrace what you have and be thankful. -B]

SSCC #15–Renton, WA Police

So back over near my old stomping ground the Renton police have as always continue their tradition of being up to no good.  It seems that some cartoonist decided to make fun of the situation, except the department didn’t find it too funny.

The Renton City Prosecutor wants to send a cartoonist to jail for mocking the police department in a series of animated Internet videos.

The "South-Park"-style animations parody everything from officers having sex on duty to certain personnel getting promoted without necessary qualifications. While the city wants to criminalize the cartoons, First Amendment rights advocates say the move is an "extreme abuse of power."

Here’s the cartoon’s in question, all nine actually that are being used as evidence in the “cyber stalking” case against the creator.

So for grins I went and looked up RCW (9.61.260) which states:

(1) A person is guilty of cyberstalking if he or she, with intent to harass, intimidate, torment, or embarrass any other person, and under circumstances not constituting telephone harassment, makes an electronic communication to such other person or a third party:
     (a) Using any lewd, lascivious, indecent, or obscene words, images, or language, or suggesting the commission of any lewd or lascivious act;
     (b) Anonymously or repeatedly whether or not conversation occurs; or
     (c) Threatening to inflict injury on the person or property of the person called or any member of his or her family or household.
     (2) Cyberstalking is a gross misdemeanor, except as provided in subsection (3) of this section.
     (3) Cyberstalking is a class C felony if either of the following applies:
     (a) The perpetrator has previously been convicted of the crime of harassment, as defined in RCW 9A.46.060, with the same victim or a member of the victim’s family or household or any person specifically named in a no-contact order or no-harassment order in this or any other state; or
     (b) The perpetrator engages in the behavior prohibited under subsection (1)(c) of this section by threatening to kill the person threatened or any other person.
     (4) Any offense committed under this section may be deemed to have been committed either at the place from which the communication was made or at the place where the communication was received.
     (5) For purposes of this section, "electronic communication" means the transmission of information by wire, radio, optical cable, electromagnetic, or other similar means. "Electronic communication" includes, but is not limited to, electronic mail, internet-based communications, pager service, and electronic text messaging.

The department is claiming that the cartoons were posted by someone within the department for the express purpose of harassing the individuals.  From watching that video I can’t help but think this is nothing more than standard banter towards the police department.

Frankly I think some people need to get some thicker skin, especially if you work for the public.  If you do stupid shit and someone points it out, even in a cartoon online, deal with it.  If you don’t like it, stop doing stupid shit!  It’s a fairly simple concept.

I was going to just give this an honorable mention but it wore and me more and more throughout the day.  The harassment charge is quite thin, especially since they still have to prove that author intended to harass the specific individuals.  So now we get to see yet another municipality in the Peoples Republik of Puget Sound waste tax payer money.  Given they ultimately are attempting to intimidate others who would do the same it gains my seal of approval.

State Sponsored Criminal Count: 15

Because someone pointing out your idiocy shouldn’t be allowed if your work for the state.

via Phil.

SSCC #62-#73–Orlando Police

Prosecutors have dropped attempted murder charges against a man who was shot in November by Orlando police officers who claimed he tried to ram them with his van.

The decision came after the Florida Department of Law Enforcement obtained surveillance video that appears to show an Orlando police pickup truck pushing the van into other officers’ vehicles.

But wait, there’s more… (Emphasis mine)

The FDLE forwarded its findings to the Orange-Osceola State Attorney’s Office, which dropped charges of attempted murder of a law enforcement officer and other serious felonies that could have led to life sentences. Prosecutors have decided to take no action against the officers.

So let me get this straight.  Cop A rams the citizen’s car into Cop B who then shoots claiming the citizen tried to run him over.  Seriously you can’t make crap like this up.  To then put the icing on the cake, they attempt to charge the man with attempted murder, which would have stuck had it not been for the surveillance tape.  Since the officers got busted lying, it doesn’t matter because it’s just business as usual.

Seriously no charges, none!?  Evidently anything and everything goes if you’re an Orlando police officer even if you get caught.  If you want some side income, become an Orlando PD officer and run a brothel.  If they don’t care about attempted murder, perjury, and unlawful use of force; why would they care about an officer running a brothel?

Every officer associated with this incident is guilty, due to the following, that ticker is rolling fast.

OPD is conducting an internal investigation of an undisclosed number of the dozen officers involved in the takedown in the Target parking lot on East Colonial Drive on the Sunday before Thanksgiving 2010.

State Sponsored Criminal Count: 73

Because when you feel the need to kill something, just stage the incident like you needed to use lethal force, it’s cool!

Via: Phssthpok in GBC

SSCC #430–Billings

A 12-year-old girl suffered burns to one side of her body when a flash grenade went off next to her as a police SWAT team raided a West End home Tuesday morning.

Why would an officer feel he needed to throw a flash-bang towards a small young child?

Police Chief Rich St. John said the 6 a.m. raid at 2128 Custer Ave., was to execute a search warrant as part of an ongoing narcotics investigation by the City-County Special Investigations Unit.

Ahh, the war on drugs.  Supposedly they felt this to be a high threat raid, except no one bothered to take into account the two small children in the house.  Instead they felt it to be a better option to kick down the door, break windows, and emotionally scar them since you know, knocking on the door and serving the warrant would be some how bad.

The real clue is that no charges have been field, the police claim they found evidence, of what who knows.  Most likely they will use that “evidence” as leverage to prevent legal action on their negligence.

State Sponsored Criminal #430: The Billings SWAT Team

Because by no means should an officer use his own brain to think whether or not “X” is a good idea or actually required.  Even more so, hand the potentially dangerous material to someone too stupid to wait till it goes off before letting it go.

h/t The Wife.

SSCC #119 – Ogden PD

This one makes me sick. 

A former South Ogden police officer has been sentenced to a possible
life prison term on charges of aggravated sexual abuse of a child and
forcible sodomy.

Welling, 41, worked for the agency from August 2008 until his
resignation in January while both the internal and criminal
investigations were ongoing.

As this incident occurred while the officer was off duty the reason for it’s inclusion is because of the trust children are instructed to give to police officers.

State Sponsored Criminal Count: 119 Andrew Welling

Because the trust gained by being police officer is something to abuse.

SSCC #321–Portland

Police took down Dan Halsted while he was just innocently walking home. The officer stunned Halsted five times with a Taser in the back because he thought he sprayed some graffiti.

Then when the officer realized that he screwed up what did he do?

"The arresting officer in his police report, he made up a whole other story and said that I had been running down the street with a couple other people."

Don’t worry though if you live in Portland:

The settlement comes not long after a city audit recommended police limit the times a person’s stunned. Most police agencies train officers to stun suspects up to three times.

Portland police doesn’t comment on lawsuits but said officers just completed refresher training on Tasers.

Because that totally solves the problem of out of control police officers that obviously have zero restraint.

State Sponsored Criminal Count 321: Portland Police Officer John Doe

Because someone running away from you while you’re acting aggressive is an excuse to continually use force.

SSCC #391 & #392 –Little Rock

This one there is way too much in the way of fishy going on for it to be acceptable.

A man police say shot himself in the head while his hands were cuffed behind him in the back of an Arkansas patrol car tested positive for methamphetamine, anti-anxiety medication and other drugs, according to an autopsy report released Monday that listed his death as a suicide.

Two officers patted him down and didn’t find a weapon.  He was handcuffed and placed in the back of a police car, he pulled a stashed weapon out and shot himself, in the head, while in handcuffs with his hands behind him.  No I’m not making this up, this isn’t from The Onion either.

Know what’s interesting about that video, in every officer they didn’t have the cuffs cinched down.  There was a lot of play and free movement ability with the cuffs up the forearm.

So at minimum what this department is saying is that our officers are so inept at their jobs that two of them could not find an expertly hidden firearm that was easily within reach of someone in handcuffs.

Further our officers are incapable of properly securing said handcuffs as to maximally limit movement while not causing issues with circulation.*  Further we have even more problems that cause it to fail the smell test.

The autopsy report comes days after police released dashboard camera video recorded the night Carter was shot in Jonesboro, about 130 miles northeast of Little Rock. Part of the video showed Carter being patted down and ended before officers found Carter slumped over and bleeding in the back of a patrol car, as was described in a police report. Police later released additional video they said was recorded after Carter was found.

If you looked that up in the dictionary you would find it under “convenient”. No matter how you cut this story the officers were at a minimum inept, at worst cold blooded killers.

Could this man have actually killed himself?  Possibly, especially given the following if true:

Carter was searched twice, and police said they found a small amount of marijuana, but no gun. After the first search, an officer put Carter into a patrol car without handcuffing him. He was later searched again, handcuffed and returned to the same car.

He could have removed the weapon and stashed it if that is true.  Stashing anything and everything in the car is a good idea if you can make sure you’re prints aren’t on it.  Once he was in cuffs maybe he figured it was over and gave up.  Who knows, but that is yet another example at a minimum of police ineptitude at minimum that cost a man his life.

State Sponsored Criminals #391: John Doe

#392: John Doe

*I have been placed in cuffs by officers for demonstration purposes and every time those cuffs weren’t going to go half way up more forearm, at most you got 1/2 inch of play.

h/t JayG and Weer’d