Here’s what caught my attention though:
Yet this man is given the authority and backing of the state while in some places they refuse to allow their law-abiding citizens to carry for their own defense.
State Sponsored Criminal: Tony Davis
Because the laws are for the little people.
Yes mom, I know it was dad who mad you a mom.
Brett Westerman – Overhead while calling his mom on Mother’s day.
May 12, 2013
[Yes everyone in the truck burst out into laughter yesterday when he said that on the phone. Why? Because there was every ounce of that discomfort at the mental thought that was just put in his brain…. We all thought it was funny as hell.
Ahh to be in college again. Wait, nope I’m good with freedom. -B]
Neither is Robb, Joe, or Linoge.
Where did this all come from? Well Joe, Robb, Linoge, and I were hosting an extra copy of the Defense Distributed file pack. Allowing a quick and easy method for others to grab it if they so choose.
Divermedic took great offense saying how dare we pull our links when we evaluated the risk – reward matrix being beyond our worth. Evidently if we were true activists we would fall on our swords and simultaneously commit seppuku.
You’re missing my point. The point here is that hosting the file from the beginning was a risk. Joe had to know that, or else why post the file at all?
A lawyer will ALWAYS tell you not to take a stand. That is his job. The easiest legal case to win is one that you never get into in the first place, but this results in very little change.
You accuse me of driving from the back seat, but isn’t that what the entire blogosphere does? We all sit around and complain about the state of affairs, but very, very few of us are willing to take a stand.
This is the reason why I think that all of this big talk about the “line in the sand” for gun owners is just that: talk. Everyone wants to complain, but no one wants to actually risk anything. Including myself, Joe, and even you.
Evidently, the thought there are different levels of risk and different cards that could be played never crossed this poor soul’s mind. According to our illustrious leader here the best course of action is to always follow the original plan, even if the enemy makes an unexpected move that can easily and most likely cause your total destruction. Hey, at least you died on a hill for nothing while screaming “Shall not be infringed” like a true activist right?
If you think that Joe, Robb, Linoge, or myself hosted this file for attention, maybe you’re the self-centered egotistical asshole projecting his approach to life on others. I do find it interesting that while he continues to criticize us he has yet to actually put his money where his mouth is and do a damn thing beyond open his mouth bitching about how we’re “posers”. Because a poser runs out and donates time and money and supplies said information to a couple hundred people?
Did we take as much risk as we could have? No, why? Because honestly there was no reward to continuing the risk. So why do it, why choose that hill to die on given the weapon they brought to bear against us? We’re not running around bragging about it, we’re defending our decisions to some pleab who didn’t take an ounce of any risk himself. We’re defending our actions against a man who has quite literally done nothing other than complain.
What is really telling though is how he states we’re not activists.
A lot of Joe’s writing on the right to keep and bear arms which you can read on his blog… is writing that you really really need to read.
His claim is the following:
No, here’s what happened. Divemedic came into Joe’s place and started acting high and mighty calling us pussies for pulling down the files after the risk was too high. He gave us a line of shit when we actually did something while he sat in his own little world and did nothing.
Does he really think that none of us have distributed those files in any other means? Does he realize that three of us write software for a living and are very skilled with computers. Tell me, given the penalty, would we advertise any further involvement? Especially when we could accomplish the goal anonymously to protect ourselves.
He misread the point of posting those files. Neither Joe, Robb, or myself posted that after the ITAR letter. We had posted the files to help spread them far and wide and make it simpler for some to make their own copy. Not everyone uses bit-torrent or is familiar with its use and we were helping anyone and everyone find it and sharing our bandwidth and server usage to do so. The benefit of doing so was when the primary server link was cut we were still immediately available until the alternative methods had made their way all the way into the public’s view.
I didn’t ask everyone and their mother to link that post and I certainly provided no statement that I would keep the file posted no matter what. I implied that you can’t stop the signal and you can’t. Even though Joe, Robb, Linoge, and I have removed the files to legally protect us, it continues to spread, and that’s the damn point.
*Corrections since he evidently failed reading comprehension 101 and didn’t bother to actually read the quote.
One of them even made claim that he believe John Adams when he said:
If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave.
I guess he changed his mind and decided to become a slave…
I think you were confusing that quote with this one from Samuel Adams.
If ye love wealth better than liberty,
the tranquility of servitude
better than the animating contest of freedom,
go home from us in peace.
We ask not your counsels or your arms.
Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
May your chains set lightly upon you,
and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.
Ok, first up, you still don’t have the file publicly posted so you have no room to speak as if you were issuing a call to arms for support. You didn’t even post the damn thing to begin with.
Secondly, that John Adams quote states the following since you don’t seem to be able to understand, “The natural rights of man are non-negotiable and not subject to the laws over government as they are natural.”
I have not told anyone else to pull down that file, it is their choice to continue to host it if they so choose. I support their right and free exercise of that right. Just because I support that right doesn’t mean I must exercise it exactly that way. In this case I choose not to exercise that right, not because I don’t think I should be able to, but because the trouble and risk far outweighs any possible positive benefit. To put it another way, just because I support the legalization of weed doesn’t mean I want or have to smoke it.
In closing this isn’t the first time that someone from “our side of the fence” has decided to hate on me. Frankly I don’t care, I’m just going to refer to myself as “The Third Tier non-Activist Gun Blogger with a Junior Internet Detectives Badge.” Because honestly the behavior of Divemedic in this whole thing strikes me just like that Smoking Blunder ass hat. He decided to try and use this as a wedge between members of our community and frankly anyone who acts or behaves like that I don’t consider a friend. He thrives on badmouthing those on his side because they weren’t willing to continue to stand when he didn’t even stand to begin with. I’m not trying to make this out to be some sort of bad ass move, but frankly he is criticizing people when he really has no right to.
Joe didn’t want to waste time on a response and frankly he’s probably right. In the end though, he says that we were ego stroking in an attempt to gain traffic to our sites… That coming from the guy beating on the drama llama. Honestly, why should anyone give a crap about the “opinion” of Divemedic? Until this whole escapade I hadn’t even heard of him.
No, when I get a comment from Tam, Oleg, JayG, or Alan saying that I’ve done something wrong, I’ll perk up and listen, doubly so since they’ll do so in an appropriate manner and have earned their reputation and rightfully so. As far as I’m concerned, this is a no-body bitching at a bunch of some-bodies because he felt like it.
In the mean time an enraged narcissist who didn’t get his way with the legislature could conceivably apply the regulations to people posting YouTube videos on how to grip your pistol.
Joe Huffman – Faceless bureaucrats, not blue helmeted elk
May 9th, 2013
[Go read’s Joe’s post on the breakdown of how they’re attempting to apply ITAR regulations to stop our culture. This isn’t a joke either folks, it is quite literally that simple, I just didn’t see how they could grossly apply it over anything firearms related.
Well evidently some congress critter with a cranial rectal inversion, or more likely placing an Easter Egg, has created hell for us. I’m not sure how we’re going to fight this one, but fight we must. This is how they will destroy freedom and those who agree will support the tactics as long as it isn’t being used against them. –B]
Why does this one make the whole count.
That’s right, you can’t fire corrupt cops who disobey the law.
State Sponsored Criminal: Diana Laura Jones
Because a DUI is only a problem when the person in question isn’t a cop.
This has to be the biggest piece of publicity for an item ever created yet it didn’t even come from the company that created it. Instead it came from our own government.
It’s worth noting that there is an exemption that Defense Distributed falls under but the bad news, for the government anyway, this will have the opposite effect by causing more people to grab it than you desire.
If/When I receive a take down notice validating the position of the State Department I will have no choice but to pull it. Tonight I will be burying it behind a page that will require you to state that you are a US Citizen to download it under penalty of perjury. I’ve already added a line disclaimer stating as much. You can still get the files through this post.
Honestly I think this is a bullshit call and is merely an attempt to instill fear in the people and only serves to delay the dissemination of information. Doubly so when you consider the ATF and Eric Holder violated ITAR during Fast and Furious. No, you can’t stop the signal.
For all their concern, not a single one of them has expressed an ounce of sympathy to me. I dare say neither my brother nor I matter to them at all. But, they will include his death in their numbers to justify how evil guns are. They will use his death as one in a long line of emotional stories to manipulate the emotions of others and frankly that pisses me off. The only time this “friend” has ever spoke to me about my brother’s death was today and that was all of 5 words. The rest of the 6 paragraph email was about how wrong I am and how guns are bad and I should be sharing my brother’s sorry as a cautionary tale. Outside of the “I am thinking of you” sentence the rest was about the evil I am spreading(albeit probably out of being so naive) and how if we can save just one life…blah, blah, blah. She has not bothered to stay in contact with me, so she doesn’t know that I was attacked or that guns play a vital role in keeping my life safe, but of course my life doesn’t matter. My life isn’t part of the plan. What I do day to day has not mattered to her at all. Just today. Just the day Allen died. Her line saying “thinking of you” just doesn’t feel sincere for some reason.
May 8th, 2013
[First go read her whole post. It’s an enlightening view of the behavior of those on the other side.
It’s what we all knew, but they took the blood dancing and grief cutting to a whole new level. Seriously what the hell was the point of that woman sending that email other than to cause pain, grief, and misery. I am of the firm opinion that people like that are eternally miserable and insist on spreading their misery to others.
One of these day’s I’ll get around to writing up some of the other reasons I haven’t been writing as much lately, but suffice it to say, I don’t like spreading grief, pain or worry. There’s a little over 6 months left in this year and I’m sure I can figure out some way to rock the rest of it like a boss. I’m waiting for the all clear and then I’ll explain why. Some in my inner circle know, but honestly I don’t want everyone and their mother worrying about it.
All I have to say is that overall her response is why I love A Girl. She was considerably kinder than I would have been had someone send some pile of garbage like that to me. Hell I remember fighting the urge to bitch slap the woman who told me that allowing my dad to undergo his cancer treatment is what killed him. Had I been a better son I would have convinced him to do alternative therapy… She knew nothing about when it happened, what cancer it was, nothing, she just heard my dad passed away from cancer while discussing treatment types. She took that moment to try and cut into me and lay grief on me as if I was responsible. After the 10 minute frothing rant was done where I chewed her up and spit her out verbally in front of a room of 20 people. So loud mind you that no one else could hold a conversation she got up and walked out. She didn’t speak to me for the rest of the weekend and everyone who saw it didn’t dare broach the subject of what exactly was said because it was obvious it was inappropriate. I don’t think she even dared to call out my call sign on the radio for even normal traffic.
Some people love misery and they take great pride in making other people miserable. If you try and make me miserable, I will drag you down, chew you up, spit you out and say **** you while sporting the bird. Why? Because I have no need for someone that miserable when I have an awesome family and an awesome group of friends. Real friends that will support me at the drop of a hat, even if we’ve never met face to face. The don’t send me an email out of the blue claiming to care while trying to say that I was somehow to blame for their decisions. That I’m some how to blame for their decided use for an inanimate object.
And when you look at life when you have family and a group of friends like I’ve got; life’s pretty damn good! –B]
Long day’s at work lately and I’ve been busy starting up the last few sites on the server. No I didn’t forget.
Led Zeppelin – Immigrant Song
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