Forest River Forums and Overly Sensitive Moderators…

So I joined Forest River Forums recently after I bought a fifth wheel with the kiddo in mind and Boomershoot. You can encounter all 4 seasons in the weekend and many times 3 of them in one day with a rapid swing. It’s often cold and windy and well a 7 month old kid in that environment isn’t going to be fun.

My new XLR Nitro fifthwheel.

TMW and Minnie Me with the new Fifth Wheel

So thought, get a bug out vehicle that we can use elsewhere. Well I’m new to the RV thing so I begin doing what I do and started sucking up every last piece of information on the topic and finding locations that would be helpful for future reference.

I joined Forest River Forums for the following reasons:

  1. Own a Forest River product.
  2. Forest River product engineers do surf that forum and offer help.

That seems like a great way to narrow down noise when dealing with a problem or issue. So I do the one thing I never do and join a forum. Yeah we will see why I hate forums here shortly. I joined shortly after pulling the trigger October 4th.

The clue Forest River Forums doesn’t want me:

Come November 10th, I was given this garbage in my inbox.

PM from a Forest River Forums moderator.

PM I got from a busy body.

So I don’t remember what I had in my signature. Most likely it was either this quote from Franklin:

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Or this one from Captain America:

Doesn’t matter what the press says. Doesn’t matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn’t matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right.

When the ob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of Truth and tell the whole world, you move.

Don’t remember, I was off Forest River Forums for a while and didn’t notice that PM until December 22nd. Well after seeing the message and then noticing my sig is different, I was less than pleased. Petty tyrants gotta tyrant. This is their forum and they can do whatever they want.

This is my blog and well they decided to be so fucking petty I have no need to hide any of this anymore instead feel it better to lay out the facts of exactly what transpired.  I fired off a curt reply.

So I just noticed this PM tonight. Since you seem to be this type of individual, here’s your trigger warning.

First, let me say this is your site and you’re free to do whatever the hell you want. I find it interesting though that I must censor the link to my blog though in the about me page. I can understand limiting commentary in sig lines, but if someone looks me up so what? They’re free to leave my website, just as I’m free to skip over threads I don’t care about.

If they want to get their panties in a ruffle well I’m not going to be the one to do it in a public forum. However while I understand your concern about someone not expressing such restraint you feel it necessary to restrain me. Petty tyrants gotta tyrant.

But here’s one for you. You want to be a resource for RVer’s and traveling with firearms can be a long legal nightmare. But we can’t have people asking questions about how to do that now can we? Because CONTROVERSY! We can’t have someone discover from looking in someone’s profile that they might be able to answer the question outside of the forum whereby the forum escapes their inclusion in a dreaded “controversial” subject.

We’re talking about the link to my blog as provided in my profile on the about me page. We can’t have someone discover from looking in someone’s profile that they might be able to answer the question outside of the forum whereby the forum escapes their inclusion in a dreaded “controversial” subject. You have quite literally said now I’m not welcome because “I am controversial” merely by my presence and who I am outside of this forum. Because that is my personal website. If you don’t like the fact that someone might have something controversial in their about me profiles, delete the url for everyone. Make it your safe space.

I’d like to point out there wasn’t a lick of controversy or issue until you created one. So with that, so long. I’d rather be some place where I feel welcome and not have to suppress my profile about who I am.

Additionally, I find it ironic that you bitch about my blog when I’ve had a couple people contact me after surfing through the forums. They contacted me to ask me RVing questions and didn’t want to join the forum, largely because of limited scope and it was regarding my specific rig and configuration, coupled with the fact they dislike forums. We’ll we see why, not to mention for a supposed resource to help people you seem more than happy to kill off some of the ways it helps.

I thought long and hard before joining this forum because honestly, I find most forums an absolute waste because petty shit drives out people who would be good contributors. I can see now that deep down this place is no exception.

TL;DR: Go fuck yourself you petty, hypocritical, tyrants. I’m out, I don’t need you or your generation of drama because of a fucking link to my blog contained within my profile. You either welcome me or you don’t. If someone else wants to get pissy because of who I am outside of this site, that’s their fucking problem; NOT MINE.

In hindsight I noticed a copy paste reorder issue but it still works. After that I didn’t goto Forest River Forums.

Forest River Forums cements the attitude.

Yesterday I searched for something and without looking clicked the link and this greeted me.

I have been banned from Forest River Forums.

And I’ve been banned.

How’s that for awesome right? Petty tyrant shows himself as a petty tyrant wielding the only hammer he’s got. But wait, it gets better. After seeing I am now banned, indefinitely, I decided to check my profile info. Lets look at my contact page.

My Forest River Forums profile still contains my homepage.

Look, my URL is still there…

So lets ignore the signature thing, because honestly while it’s annoying it’s not the serious transgression here. The transgression here is that the contact info for me regarding my homepage was an “issue”. Most entertainingly you then see this below:

Forest River Forums only approves of certain hobbies.

Only the hobbies you approve of.

So it appears that my polite behavior within the forum not to mention my intelligence regarding some of the subjects didn’t matter because my hobbies and interests didn’t align with their world view.

I know for a fact at most two moderators were involved with my ban, you can see only two reviewed my profile, and most likely it was this single moderator who had his panties in a bunch because how dare you have a hobby I disagree with.

Want the icing on the cake though? I have had people contact me through my profile page looking for answers to questions. They were looking at getting a similar trailer and didn’t want to join Forest River Forums. Smart decision that, petty tyrant has to tyrant and it’s best just to avoid their drama.

What’s entertaining is they trotted all this out and for what? A link to my personal blog about what I do outside of my RV and outside Forest River Forums. They cannot actually damage me or even really prevent me from reading the forum. It’s easy to delete cookies, change IP addresses, and any host of other things. Hell, I could create another profile right now and be back on and they wouldn’t know who it is. In other words, you can’t actually stop me, all you can be is a nuisance. It’s merely my ethical and moral stance that keeps me from burning your house down with the lemon.

Anyone involved in this shit show is free to contact me through the contact page or to leave a comment while comments are open. Note unlike a petty tyrant, it takes a lot for me to swing the ban hammer, even in a public space, and I’ll be leaving what you write for the world to see.

This post could be alternatively titled, why Forest River Forums sucks and you shouldn’t waste your time.

Quote of the Day – Rob Thubron (12/30/2015)

Specifically, UK ministers want to make it a criminal offence for tech firms to warn users of requests for access to their communication data made by security organizations such as MI5, MI6 and GCHQ (the Government Communications Headquarters).

Rob ThubronTech companies face criminal charges if they notify users of UK government spying

December 30th, 2015


[Coming soon to a country near you…

This right here is a classic case of “it’s fine when we do it and illegal when anyone else does it.” Seriously, you’re required to notify users of a breach of security regarding their accounts, not to mention it’s the morally correct thing to do. Yet somehow all those rules go right out the window merely because it’s a government agency who’s getting into the account.

You want indemnity to prevent disclosure. Simple, get a real honest to god warrant, not to mention the death to the secret courts. Nothing aids abuse better than these types of shenanigans. -B]

 

Quote of the Day – James Comey (12/14/2015)

[Question by : If I buy a gun on the internet is it delivered to my home?]

I assume it is shipped to you but I don’t know for sure actually.

James Comey – Director of the FBI

Senate Hearings regarding firearms purchases 12/9/2015


[The top law enforcement officer in the country doesn’t know the answer to this. An answer which was clearly defined in the Gun Control Act of 1968. If you buy a firearm online it must be shipped from an FFL to another FFL. If it’s a pistol, the receiving FFL where you pick it up must also be located in your state of residence. Additionally all firearms laws still apply.

Pro-tip, not just for idiots like Comey, if you don’t know the answer to a question there is only one proper answer: “I do not know currently, let me find out and I’ll get back to you.”

The media, not to mention the uneducated though, lap it up. Seriously I wish I had been a senator on that hearing so I could have publicly roasted his ass for that line of bullshit. -B]

 

Quote of the Day – Chris Byrne (12/10/2015)

Our constitution could not be written today… and if by some miracle it were, it would never be ratified. It is too simple, and too radical.

It was radical then, it is still radical now. It was and is intentionally so. It created a nation, and a government, based on a principle that had never been tried before, and I don’t believe has been tried since.

Those who “misinterpret” it, do so intentionally, because they do not understand, or cannot accept, the notion of a government of strictly limited and enumerated powers, and a people of nearly unlimited, inherent, pre-existing, individual rights.

The notion that government cannot do everything they want it to, because they want it to, is entirely unacceptable to them. They cannot even comprehend it, never mind accept it.

And so, they dismiss the “inconvenient” language, as if it was meaningless, and twist it to fit whatever interpretation they find desirable.

They simply pretend the entire basis of the constitution, from which it solely derives its legitimacy and authority, does not exist at all.

That somehow, the “real” basis is some mishmash of communitarianism, authoritarianism, and majoritarianism, which can be altered and reinterpreted to suit the whims of “society”, as they see fit.

Chris ByrneFacebook Post

December 6th, 2015


[I have nothing else to add. -B]

 

Quote of the Day – Barak Obama (12/8/2015)

Because when we travel down that road, we lose. That kind of divisiveness, that betrayal of our values plays into the hands of groups like ISIL…. Let’s not forget that freedom is more powerful than fear.

Barak Obama – National Address
December 6th, 2015


[And then he begins railing on how we need more gun control. How we need ot surrender our rights, in otherwords our freedom, for the illusion of security.  His leverage to make those pleas? Fear.

 

Seriously, that line while true and honest, was merely distraction to draw you from the lunacy of what their goals are. Not to mention the whole no fly list is largely motivated by “fear”. That’s why there isn’t a single amount of due process associated with it. -B]

Quote of the Day – Steven Taylor (12/7/2015)

If you are listening to Obama hoping for comforting words and a ‘plan’ you will always be sorely disappointed.

Steven Taylor – Facebook Comment
December 6th, 2015


[For context this was said with regards to Obama’s speech from his soap box deriding free American’s and blasting them for their god given rights to firearms.

Seriously, if you were watching that drivel expecting to hear how he planed on dealing with ISIS and protecting us from Islamic Extremists, you were left disappointed with a lecture of how the big bad NRA is responsbile for all the worlds ills.*

*Now he didn’t call them out by name, but let’s be honest here. Which group of people was berated against and blamed for the violence? That’s right, gun owners. -B]

Quote of the Day – Michael Z. Williamson (12/6/2015)

No, I will not give up my guns.  Now, what are you going to do about it?

If you say you’ll send someone to take them, then you’re admitting to a belief in using pre-emptive state sanctioned violence for political ends.  The state can use that same violence against any other group it disagrees with, and you’ve endorsed the concept. Congratulations. You’ve just justified my reason for having guns.  You’re also a coward, unwilling to act on your own behalf.  You’re only comfortable with contract violence.

If you’re not going to do anything, then you’re just a whining, bleating sheep, and a moral coward I can safely ignore.  This results in no harm to you.  You have every right to be a bleating sheep.  But, the bleating sheep don’t get to herd the sheepdog, and do get eaten by wolves.

So are you a coward or a fascist?

Either way, I am unswayed by your impotent bleating, and choose to ignore it.

Michael Z. Williamson – Facebook Post
December 6th, 2015


[It is amazing the number of people who think that the confiscation of arms will just magically happen. That there will be no violence and everyone will just cooperate peacefully. Not to mention the complete lack of acknowledgement that the state will employ violence against a group of people who have harmed no one.

This is the complete opposite of the American ideal and the character of American’s. The fact that citizens are attacking their fellow citizens who have done nothing wrong idicate just how morally corrupt the opposition has become. Villifying innocent people who want to be able to defend themselves and family for the actions of pure evil.

Michael Z. Williamson puts it quite well. Coward or a fascist, those are their choices. Not a single one of these people would blame all car owners for the actions of a drunk driver. Yet here they are attempting to attribute responsiblity for it. I’m done with the bullshit. -B]

Quote of the Day – Griffeath

If you ARE for denying people the right to own a gun or to get on an airplane because they’re on a secret government list, then it speaks poorly both of your intellect and your character.  

Seriously, that a sitting president would propose it, and people would follow it give me zero confidence the spirit that gave us Japanese internment is in the past.

  • J. Griffeath, Facebook Post, December 5th, 2015

 


[One would think we would have learned from that horrible chapter in history. However as that horrible black eye to American’s everywhere was championed by one of the lefts favorites, FDR, it should be no surprise that the left is more than willing to repeat the same behavior now.

We haven’t grown up, we haven’t changed, people are just as nasty and bigoted towards those they disagree with than ever. Worse is they’re more than willing to swing the power of the state to kill those they disagree with and see no moral problem with it. Keep your powder dry. -B]