If I carry a concealed weapon, I will not be a dumbass and will use a holster unlike this individual.
A Flagstaff man accidentally fired his gun inside a crowded McDonald’s into a wall, which ended with debris hitting fellow customers, police said.
The 24-year-old man had the firearm in his waist band, the police report states, and when he leaned against the back wall, the weapon discharged.
Young man, tell me you aren’t a sports fan because you should have learned from Plaxico’s mistake. This is not how responsible people carry firearms. We use a good sturdy holster. Not that cheap nylon crap from Uncle Mike either. It should be in a real freaking holster.
You were aware of the mass shooting and you did not want people freaking out about your gun, yet you couldn’t be bothered with using a real holster? Tell me, how did that negligent discharge work for keeping it all on the down low?
I would like to point out however this is yet another example of the hole in “training requirements” assuming boy wonder here had a CCW, which he probably is, obviously satisfied the training requirement but evidently he skipped class on buy a holster day.* The bottom line is there are many people that live in states that have no training requirement and they don’t do this type of crap. Then within states with the training requirement you still have people who do. Maybe it isn’t as much the training but the attitude of the person carrying the gun. You can lead a horse to water but you can not make him drink.
My guess on what happened given the description is that clothing got within the trigger guard and when he leaned back it applied pressure and went bang. The other option is he violated rule 5 but I don’t think he would have put a hole through his jeans without also penetrating himself.
*Though it seems that military service satisfies the requirement, maybe they never told him to use a holster for sidearms. About the best alternative option is participation in organized shooting sports. I do not know specifically what sports they consider acceptable, however if it’s IDPA or USPSA they don’t let you do Mexican carry. They tell you to use a freaking holster and what happened is exactly why. Small-bore rifle and bullseye on the other hand, that just means you can hit the broad side of a barn, not that you know how to carry.
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It is crazy to me how many people do not bother to research good gear. They put so much effort(hopefully) into the gun and nothing to support it. The gun is a tool, but one that can cause harm if not used properly. In order to carry a gun one should at least understand that.
And quite honestly, I think that style of carry would be horribly uncomfortable. I am often disappointed in the holsters I DO have. Imagine how disappointed one would be in carrying with no holster.
It takes some doing to find a good comfortable holster. I actually have a couple different kinds and what I’m doing dictates what I wear.
I have yet to find a solid comfortable jack of all trades.
Arizona is a Constitutional carry state. It is not strongly assured that he is a ccw holder, as there is no legal prerequisite in that state. Not an excuse, as there a millions of us that DIDNT shoot a hole in a McDs yesterday. Just an observation.
True, it would be interesting to know if he is or isn’t. Either way I figure it’s still an example of not being able to force someone to drink from the trough.
I have no doubt someone told him at some point that wasn’t a bright idea.
The only thing I’ll disagree with is the hate-on for the Uncle Mike’s holsters. I’ll repeat what I said at Tam’s the other day: When used properly (i.e., with a decent belt), they hold the gun securely (including protecting the trigger), they’re fairly comfortable, and they’re good “entry level” holsters for people who might otherwise be forced to choose between buying practice ammunition and a carry holster.
Someone who is barely scraping by and had to save up for a year just to afford a pistol shouldn’t be chastised for going with a $12 Uncle Mike’s IWB holster instead of saving up for another year to buy a “real” holster. Someone who needed a pistol now because of a real or perceived threat might not be able to afford anything more after paying for the gun and ammo. Should they skip the Uncle Mike’s and not carry until they can afford a “real” holster?
They are “real” holsters. There are certainly better ones out there, but an Uncle Mike’s will do everything necessary to prevent incidents like this from happening.
Every Uncle Mike’s holster I have seen has been generic nylon that the definition of secure could be left for debate. My biggest problem with nylon is while they do a decent job of keeping stuff out of the trigger guard, they’re not stiff enough to remain reliable at it, especially if there are small objects that can end up pushing in that area. Doubly scary is if the holster is loose enough around the weapon the nylon can bunch, which is why its important to find the right size. But they’re generic holsters, they’re going to either be loose in some areas or tight in others.
There are alternatives out there while not as low as the 12 buck holster from Mike, 35 bucks for an actual leather holster is not going to break the bank. Here’s a thermoplastic for 33. Those are fit to the weapon and honestly I’d spend my money there before I bought an Uncle Mike’s.
Is having a holster from Mike better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, yes, but getting a solid Kydex or leather holster is NOT that difficult, even on a budget. The problem is most people don’t figure a holster into the costs at the beginning and toss in the el-cheapo at the end. I’m quite familiar with trying to get people running on a budget and I’m not saying go buy a 200 dollar holster, but that 12 bucks is 12 bucks better spent on a real holster instead of a stop gap.
I havent bought a holster in years, in fact I only ever bought two. Both, in fact, Uncle Mikes. A vertical shoulder for 6″ revolver, which the dog ate. Also an IWB for carry. Now I make my own. If I dont like it, I know who to blame.