So evidently a bunch of people on our side of the debate have gone into PSH and labeled Alan Gottlieb a traitor.
I dont trust ANY media, they lie…
But Allen Gottlieb, if this is true as stated, you suck moonbat dick. Fuck you.
*blink* Not to mention the other post hiding behind a login calling Gottlieb a traitor. Seriously folks, are you that retarded and gullible.
First the primary source for your branding him a traitor is the Seattle Times which is notoriously anti-gun. So your reactions have served to help cripple funding to one of the biggest legal branches we have to defeat legislation. This is the principal man behind winning Heller and McDonald and you’re going to call him a traitor over what some liberal rag says. Are you stupid?
This man thinks in terms of a long chess game. He doesn’t just think one or two moves ahead, he thinks well beyond what most of us can even readily comprehend.
There’s a couple of things everyone needs to realize. First, our win is not guaranteed look at New York. Yeah they were blue, but look at how they accomplished it. If the Peoples Republic of Puget Sound wants to push something through, we can try to hold them off but I will refer you back to the King Dome/Safeco Field incident.
Second given that a win is not assured, we must take actions and measures to either kill a bill or force an actual compromise. The act of doing the latter can force the former.
It has become obvious though that the actions of our enemies has forced a wedge in-between us. Many instead of using our heads instead brand our allies as traitors for no real good or solid reason. Instead they believe false lies and misrepresented truths as well as labeling others as something they are blatantly not.
Tell me, what happens when you attack a friendly, especially a friendly who is out in front leading a charge? You destroy his ability to continue to fight for you. You destroy his ability to trust you for support. You destroy his morale.
Going and publicly bad mouthing our supporters is nothing more than destroying those who support and fight for our cause. You do so without actually knowing what’s going on and on the word of someone who wants to destroy you.
Here’s Alan’s statement:
First you should know that I do not support Washington House Bill 1588 as it is currently written.
My support for a state universal background check bill must include a substantial victory for gun owners that includes, but is not limited to repealing, prohibiting and destroying the current state handgun registration system and the data base of several million records of gun owners and their firearms that include the type of handguns and the serial numbers.
This would be a huge victory for our gun rights. We would be the first state to repeal a gun registration system. Think about that and what it means for your privacy as a gun owner and the fact that we all know historically that registration leads to confiscation.
In addition, if you have a carry permit you will be exempt from additional background checks. No checks would be required for transfers between family members. If you are a member of an organization like the Washington Arms Collectors that does a background check for membership, you would be exempt from additional checks to buy a firearm at their gun shows.
There are other inclusions that must be made as well that are good for our rights and freedom that need to be in a final bill to have my support.
My guess is that the gun grabbers will not go along with these provisions and kill the bill. If they do the “blood” so to speak is on their hands, not ours.
There are other smart, tactical, political and morally justified reasons why I have taken this position that I do not want to make public at this time. We do have enemies and I am not going to telegraph our strategy to them by spelling out our battle plans.
I enjoy winning our freedoms more than the fight. I wish I can say that about some of my critics who have pre-judged without knowledge what it is that I am doing.
Anyone who knows me knows that for the past forty years my efforts have expanded and protected our right to keep and bear arms from local city councils all the way to the United States Supreme Court.
As I said, this man is thinking not just tactically but strategically.
So tell me, who is the bigger enemy to freedom?
- The guy thinking this through and has the ability to force a real compromise, one big enough the supporters may very well kill the bill?
- The bunch of gullible idiots who believe half-truths and attack their own on the word of an enemy that wants to see them destroyed?
By all means contact Alan and voice your concerns, but I suggest you think long and hard about who you’re labeling a traitor. Especially if your goal is to either kill the bill or get an actual compromise. I’m here to tell you if I get something crammed down my throat, I want them to at least pay with something.
Our enemies want something for nothing. That’s not happening anymore but if you just sit there in the corner and keep screaming and attacking those on your side, they may very well still get it.
TMM is the owner, editor, and principal author at The Minuteman, a competitive shooter, and staff member for Boomershoot. Even in his free time he’s merging his love and knowledge of computers and technology with his love of firearms.
Many know his private name and information however due to the current political climate, many are distancing themselves due to the abandonment of Due Process.
Makes sense to me.
I’ve pretty much been working under the assumption that Alan Gottlieb knows better than I do how to get shit done.
I don’t know much about politicking, but I give my money to the people who do.
Exactly. There are a lot of things going on and a bigger pile of things going on below the surface that we don’t know about.
Given the amount of effort and personal investment from Alan I’m not going to write him off as an enemy. I would be interested in seeing what his plan is, however I don’t want him to tip his hand. This is politics and a decent chunk of politics is knowing how to bluff and read your enemy.
Ditto to Lazy Bike Commuter.
I had to read Mr. Gottlieb’s statement several times when it came out to realize that the media was manipulating me, yet again…
I wish more people would realize that often when you see something written in the media, especially the mainstream media, it is often done to engage some sort of desired response.
We are all animals and our behavior can be categorized as such. Many people can and are provoked into doing something they wouldn’t normally do if they spent the time to think about it first.
Funny, when I heard that Alan Gottlieb might be pushing for universal background checks, my first reaction was, “He’s up to something. What’s he got up his sleeve?”
His leadership of SAF, their choices of which cases to represent and how, and his incredible results (e.g. Heller and MacDonald) reveal him as a brilliant long-term strategist and legal tactician. If he’s throwing a bone to the anti-rights crowd, I’d give him the benefit of doubt and assume he knows what he’s doing.
Then I’d make the popcorn and sit back to watch the show. 😉
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Could they be Anti’s trying to false-flag us into cutting down Alan on our own? Either way, I’d be willing to Jay and Silent Bob’s Revenge them. Nobody messes with Alan, dangit.